found this article interesting.
what do you guys think?
it seems to be opposed topretty much everything i've read so far.. .
RM/MR:
I am not looking for a confrontation. Why can't you understand our position (LDH included)? We are using english words. Is it not clear?
I am getting frustrated only because I cannot believe you don't understand the real issue.
"Ave Mundi - Morituri te Salutamus!"
found this article interesting.
what do you guys think?
it seems to be opposed topretty much everything i've read so far.. .
My God! The same pitiful excuse, over and over and over again. My family was not involved in slavery, we came from somwhere else, after slavery.
WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP? IT WAS A LAND OF OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR ANCESTORS BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS BUILT FREE OF CHARGE FROM EXPLOITED LABOR. YOUR ANCESTORS WOULD NEVER HAVE COME HERE IF IT HAD BEEN ANY DIFFERENT.
Why didn't they go to china instead? Or maybe Russia? Do you know of any other country that was able to build itself free of charge?
Kick yourselves in the rear next time you turn around!
"Ave Mundi - Morituri te Salutamus!"
found this article interesting.
what do you guys think?
it seems to be opposed topretty much everything i've read so far.. .
FYI Richard Murray/Murray Richard
Nice government form you created and thank you and all good citizens for keeping so many records of your exploitation and for providing education during those years in question.
Give me a break. We're discussing principles, not stupid laws, like the legitimacy of tobacco. Who cares?
"Ave Mundi - Morituri te Salutamus!"
found this article interesting.
what do you guys think?
it seems to be opposed topretty much everything i've read so far.. .
I deplore all forms of tobacco use. It is the most disgusting and filthy habit in my opinion. However, my health care costs and tax dollars are frequently used to finance the medical care of selfish, inconsiderate, filthy addicts. There, I said it.
I now want my money back because I do not use tobacco, never have and never will, therefore I want a complete refund. How ridiculous does that sound? What about Agent Orange? I didn't poison anyone. How about the NRA Gun Lobby? Why finance the lobby? I do not own any weapons.
It's called the "price of freedom". Everyone plays, and everyone pays.
"Ave Mundi - Morituri te Salutamus!"
found this article interesting.
what do you guys think?
it seems to be opposed topretty much everything i've read so far.. .
Whether you agree or not, it is the GOVERNMENT of the United States that bears the ultimate responsibility in making reparations.
The federal government condoned and profited from slavery. It is a clever, but futile twist to state that my ancestors arrived AFTER slavery and did not profit from slavery and therefore my tax dollars should not be used to make reparations.
However, you europeans conveniently forget the services you received and continue to receive from this government were made possible as a result of exploitation.
Now, I hate the tobacco industry, certain political lobbies, but my tax dollars go there anyway. There is nothing I can do about it. Explaining my immigrant status or ancestry means nothing.
Do I receive the benefit of freedom? YES. Then I must pay taxes, and sometimes those taxes are used in manners I do not agree with or approve. It's the law. The government incurrs debts just like individuals and is required to pay with interest.
"Ave Mundi - Morituri te Salutamus!"
some of you have read posts here, and on other forums, in magazines and newspapers, and maybe watched tv commnetary that alleges president george w. bush is less than brilliant, perhaps under-qualified for office, etc.. evidence seems starkly missing from these allegations.
during campaign 2000, the media started painting gw as being mentally 'one can short of a six-pack.
' but, has anyone, and i mean anyone provided even an ounce of evidence to support this?
AMAZING:
Now I better understand your political position and frame of reference. Very interesting.
found this article interesting.
what do you guys think?
it seems to be opposed topretty much everything i've read so far.. .
LDH has been ABSOLUTLEY correct and factual in her messages during this thread. White America wants the whole issue to go away, like the treatment of Japanese. However, the Japanese were not whipped, or forcibly raped or sold or broken into fragments instead of whole families.
They were also provided public schooling inside the internment camps. Those camps were not DisneyLand, but they weren't Auschwitz either.
The meer fact that Whites Americans have the audacity to complain about slavery reparations angers me to no end! Someday, the colors of this world's power, that's right I said it, the color of this world's power is going to change.
I wonder how many would have survived had the shoe been on the other foot? Has anyone here ever received 25 lashes for looking someone in the eye, accidentally? How about selling your children or wife? Can the master rape your wife because he likes her backside?
No wonder the militant Arabs hate America. They don't hate ethnic americans, or african americans or even hispanics and asians, it is the white WASP majority that continues to profit from it's inherited legacy of subjugation and exploitation of people of color that angers most Arabs, and other oppressed people in this world.
Those who think they actually deserve the freedom and lifestyle they now have, because they really believe they earned it through hard work. Not one thought given to the millions who perished in the Black Holocaust, or the millions who perished building the infrastructure and institutions of this country - FREE of charge, so they would exist.
I am so angry I can't even think in a civil fashion.
as we as a country and a collection of people begin a process that will surely be painful, dirty and bloody, let us not forget that this nation has been through painful, dirty and bloody processes before.
our fathers and grandfathers fought a war to preserve freedom and democracy.
during that war, dark days were experienced and many, many people lost their lives in the cause of freedom.
Perhaps a new order of thinking was born on September 11, 2001. As Emperor Titus used to say "SEMPER PARATUS PRO IGNOTO" always prepared for the unknown!
some of you have read posts here, and on other forums, in magazines and newspapers, and maybe watched tv commnetary that alleges president george w. bush is less than brilliant, perhaps under-qualified for office, etc.. evidence seems starkly missing from these allegations.
during campaign 2000, the media started painting gw as being mentally 'one can short of a six-pack.
' but, has anyone, and i mean anyone provided even an ounce of evidence to support this?
All right AMAZING, I will recompose myself and down shift my gears. However, how much proof do you need? Anyone in any position of responsibility in life demonstrates their capability by their demeanor and behavior when performing and operating.
When GW is performing, he simply fails. He doesn't perform well or inspire emotion. Now about liberals and conservatives, let me assure you I am NOT a liberal. My favorite presidents were Teddy Roosevelt, Truman, and Reagan in the past century.
I keep certain personal views out of this forum in order to avoid injuring certain members and causing a rash of flaming. Trust me, after five years in the Marine Corps and two combat missions, I am not a liberal.
perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
You Know:
C'mon now, are you really determined to confuse the matter and segway into confrontation? I have never been confrontational with you thus far, nor have I taken liberties and made personal attacks.
Let's simply review the issue. Your prophecy called for the crash of the market and the beginning of a world war. Neither has occurred. I am sure someone of your intellect, capabilties and station in life could easily afford a tax-deductible contribution of $1000.00 to a noble charity.
I once donated $10,000.00 to an Assembly Hall building project and did not hesitate, even though I disagreed with the planning. Surely, you could make this humanitarian accomodation.
You do not have to acquiesce defeat or even consider the wager at all. Just demonstrate your true intentions. You know the right thing to do, I am confident.
IN AMOR OMNIBUS! PAX VOBISCUM!
